Noynoy Aquino and the ‘So What?’ Test: EPIC FAIL!

The following are the words newly-minted President Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III reported to the Media after having received a courtesy telephone call from outgoing President Gloria Arroyo who wished to congratulate him on his appointment to the Presidency:

I have to give her the courtesies. She's the current President. She's older than me. She's a woman. I would be doing injustice to my parents if I did not treat her properly.

The Inquirer.net true to its excellent form reported this statement more with the aim of highlighting the "awkwardness" of how Arroyo's phone call came across to President Aquino. Unfortunately when seen outside of the square that is the tiny mind of the average Inquirer.net reader, it is really that five-sentence snippet quoted above as coming from the mouth of the new leader of the Filipino people that stands out. Indeed, in five sentences, Noynoy reveals more about his character than what the Inquirer.net, in doing its job as the Aquinoists' private publicist, tries to highlight as Arroyo's "awkwardness".

Lack of grace.

Arroyo extended her courtesies to the new occupant of the Office of the President, and Noynoy's response to it (exhibited in the above-quoted underhanded report to the Media) exhibits a lack of an ability to take such courtesies at face value. What was a phone call regarding his ascent to the presidency and the next six years as President, was made by its recipient to be all about the caller (a) being a woman, and (b) being "older" — a kind of an attempt to deconstruct the call to make it digestible by the smaller mind of the cloistered politicians' son. Indeed, consistent with my armchair psychoanalysis, I note how the recipient described the rationale of the nature of such a response as being in deference to the memory of his parents.

But of course. Ultimately it is still all about Noynoy being an Aquino.

Get yourselves a double espresso shot as there are more subtleties in the exploration that follows that can easily fly over the head of the average Pinoy mind…

So what if Arroyo is a woman?

A man who makes a big deal about extending fundamental courtesies to a woman could be revealing a deep-seated overall issue with women in general.

So what if Arroyo is "older"?

Perhaps this rather glib taking up of the matter of Arroyo's age relative to his is an ominous portent of how he will be regarding the views of younger people.

Indeed, his seeming strong inclination to make summary categorisations of people — a penchant for putting people in boxes and/or cutting them down to sizes his stunted mind could deal with — is consistent with the way he treated a Japanese reporter who politely asked him to repeat what he had so far said in his first press conference after his proclamation as President.

During the press conference after his official proclamation as the country's 15th president, for instance, Aquino refused the request of a Japanese journalist to repeat in English his answers about his plans for his first 100 days in office because he had repeatedly answered the question in Filipino.

"I have answered the question several times already. Can I just ask them to provide you with the translation in English? I am sorry I am not a jukebox that has to repeat his statements already. I hope you understand," Aquino said during the live broadcast press conference.

Indeed. It is ironic that those who have always been at the wrong end of the sort of talking down at that Noynoy has so far consistently exhibited — the Filipino masa who walk behind the haciendero's son carrying his school bag — failed to spot this character flaw even as it stared them at their faces. You'd think that they'd be quite familiar with being routinely subjected to that kind of condescending regard by now. Then again, it is quite possible that Pinoys have simply become quite comfily desensitised by such treatment to the extent of getting a perverse sort of warm fuzzy feeling in seeing a character that fits the profile like a glove take his seat in Malacanang this week. It reminds me of an email I received way back that many here would be familiar with by now from which this gem of an excerpt remains relevant, specially now under the Second Haciendero Administration:

when I was a kid (am now 40 [years old]) our elders never give us straight answer. one day while playing to my female friend, we were both taking a bath (nude and I was 5 [years old]) I shout "ay pepe" [and] my aunt scolded me for saying bad words.

another was, when I ask my aunt again how did I come out in this world. and without hesitation she said "galing ka sa puwet".

To be fair to Noynoy, he simply acts the way he was raised. And in fairness to Da Pinoy, they simply vote the way they've been educated.

Look who's laughing
all the way to the bank

nyek nyek

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95 Responses to Noynoy Aquino and the ‘So What?’ Test: EPIC FAIL!

  1. J.B. says:

    Ignoring the seeming negativities about his personal inclination including the sensitivity issues raised in this article, I find the press con contains a well-constructed answers to barrage of questions on the first order of the day.

    What really comes next is the most important. Can’t want how he gonna execute his plans chief of which is the promise that people will have better food on the table compared to the past presidential periods.

  2. ArnelE says:

    So, if PGMA is a man and/or younger than him, he would have treated her improperly, and perhaps it would do justice to his parents? Hmm..

    I call this gaffes galore! Funny thing is, our mass media do not notice..

    • J.B. says:

      The way I see it the media at this point just focuses on programs and less on personal inclinations.

      Once Noynoy starts making mistakes after another, the media will start digging graves. That’s for sure.

    • ChinoF says:

      I see mass media as part of the plan.

      Then when it seems public opinion has reversed, on when what Noynoy does it indefensible, they’ll backflip. But like with GMA, they’ll make it all the president’s fault. Not Kamaganak Inc’s.

      Yeah, time is ripe to bash mass media.

      • Lilly says:

        I actually see mass media as one of the main instigators of the plan. It’s a bit too conspiracy theorist, but if we think about who really benefits with having Noynoy as president (and look, the star-studded Cabinet candidates!), it’s pretty obvious.

        The Noy movie is a big red flag, too.

      • famous wolf says:

        White washing was such an effective tool for the media LOL. Aside from that, the ones who ordered the shooting at Mendiola were never brought to light since Cory took it to her grave. For me, she has as much blood as her hands as Marcos did. She had skeletons in her closet that she could never clean. To others that say otherwise do not know their history enough.

  3. bokyo says:

    It’s just to show Noynoy’s business ethics and professionalism are down the drain. And the media is all making it sensationalized it’s still pulling the intellect of the masses down .

    Too many people want GMA out that they’re too blinded to see what Noynoy really is capable of.

  4. benign0 says:

    Sorry, this may come across as a bit insensitive but I just gotta express how I feel about that painting behind Noynoy in the picture accompanying the above blog…

    Doesn’t it come across as a bit too presumptuous?

    😮

    • Lilly says:

      Making Cory as their family saint? Yeah, gets on my nerves too.

      Well, that’s how Cory was envisioned anyway. She’s a symbol of what was good about democracy, but those who actually lived during her term (mature enough to discern the political happenings) and never forgot–like most of us–would just, for the lack of a better term, lol.

  5. sarcasmgasm says:

    voters wouldn’t vote for him if he wasn’t so charismatic 🙄 😆

    • thirdy_chelsea says:

      i strongly disagree. Noynoy doesn’t have charisma, rather he has the Aquino name going for him. That is all he has.

    • ChinoF says:

      Faked charisma, it is.

      Problem is, the gullible followers bite it.

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      Product of Wowoweee type of media marketing… the ads are charismatic… Noynoy is like a product being endorsed by media advertising industry. .. good packaging… the halleluyah… lo and behold we have a savior… type. “kung walang corrupt… walang mahirap”… habang inaatake si villar at si GMA on corruption si noynoy ang BRAND X… the alternative…

      … you don’t need to question the make up or the content… the product packaging… it’s good… it’s enough… kahit bulok ang producto basta maganda ang production endorsement… number of exposure… Pinoys will bite…. katulad ng skin whitener si Abnoy… pinays don’t need it… the need is created by media… so it sells…

  6. guilbautedsookie says:

    When I saw that news on TV- FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU….

    He is so fucking arrogant he talks like he isn’t the president! The way he treated Gloria is that she’s like a bimbo. And I cannot believe his arrogant attitude is being glorified.

    JESUS I cannot believe this man talks shit like he knows everything now. By what he is showing, I can judge he’s all talk, probably less action.

    TALK TO THE HAND BITCH. This country STINKS.

    • J.B. says:

      GMA is her ticket to maintain a cult following. Wait until he makes the first major mistake and his stab at GMA will no longer has sting on it.

      • guilbautedsookie says:

        Many Noynoy supporters I know are withdrawing their support right now. They said that they are now turned off by how he treated GMA.

        Anyhow, let’s just wait. (crosses fingers that Noynoy fucks up and gets thrown out by a People Power)

  7. abcdef says:

    hay noynoy talaga parang ang galing galing niya mag-salita. pero pag tinanong mo yun records niya sa senate at congress. nabubulol na at nahihirapan mag-isip. hamak naman mas magaling si gma kesa sa kanya. sus tinitira pa nila yun pag-upo ni gma as congresswoman. bakit yun iba jan, nirarambol din mga pwesto kapag natapos yun term. may mga kaso din sila, bakit hindi din nila pansinin mga yun. hindi lang si gma ang may problema.

    • bokyo says:

      Actually he summed up all his “work” into one , non-existing English word: FIZCALIZER.

      And that’s the poor excuse he has to cover up his incompetence

      • abcdef says:

        naiinis ako sa reason na yun. kadaming naniniwala. it just shows that any idiot and lazy a** can be a president with the right BS and media BS.

      • Shaddap says:

        Now that he’s the President, he’s the one that will be FISCALIZED.

        Fakken idiot that Noynoy Abnoy…

  8. not-the-antipinoy says:

    perhaps actions like this shouldn’t surprise us. aquino is an idiot.

  9. HalleluyahHymen says:

    “I have to give her the courtesies. She’s the current President. She’s older than me. She’s a woman. I would be doing injustice to my parents if I did not treat her properly.”

    Anak ng tinapang sagot yan… PANG KINDER!!! Ok class… stand up and greet our visitor good morning… “Good morning Benigno”. IT’S FnCKING PROTOCOLS!!!! It’s a universal language of BEHAVIOUR… ETHICS!!! Nice argument benigs on woman and older thingies. What in the hell is he thinking?

    • ChinoF says:

      He’s just saying, “I’m so fricking ordinary… so I’m cool.” haha

      Being just so ordinary is one of the worst things to be. 😈

      • HalleluyahHymen says:

        He thinks he’s cool… those who have not voted for him thinks otherwise…. more than that… he’s stupid… stupid than erap… Mula sa sagot ng paninigarilyo… sa mga reactions sa oath taking… hanggang sa tamang protocols ng turnover… TANGA… in english… (look at the title) EPIC FAIL!!!

        Inquirer says… HAIL…. HAIL….

        yeah…. HAIL ABNOY!!!!

  10. sarcasmgasm says:

    😕 why can’t people understand the concept of quality sarcasm

  11. Lilly says:

    This is who we voted for, ladies and gentlemen.

    Let’s keep track of all his gaffes that sprouted out of his mouth! Let’s start with…promising absolutely no tax increase then him taking back that statement after other then presidentiables explained that it was unreasonable.

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      Lily… his bio data says… GRADUATE OF AB ECONOMICS…

      Kundi ba naman BOBO’T kalahati yan… on tax increase and other taxation issues… natutulog lang sya sa economics class nya… katulad ng ginagawa nya sa senado at kongreso…. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR…. he’s absent or sleeping when the economics professor defined FISCAL POLICY….

  12. mel says:

    An emotional President Noynoy Aquino!

    His words reflect that he is not even thinking before he speaks in public. Sounds like Kris Aquino…

    As his mother often said: “Let us pray….”

  13. benign0 says:

    Glad a lot of you here seem to have gotten the point I was trying to make. 🙂

    I kinda struggled with this article. There was something so obviously wrong about those five sentences quoted off Noynoy. But when I tried to put to words what I thought about them, I found that the concepts were so subtle — like I just wanted to say kelangan pa bang i-explain kung bakit sablay ito? (“does one need to explain why this is so wrong?”).

    It comes down to upbringing. There’s something about the way that Noynoy was raised that makes him consistently fail to see how infantile he comes across. Obviously the people who surround him fail to see it too.

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      From the regular posters here… only GabbyD will miss the context Benigs… :-):-):-) no pun intended.

    • ChinoF says:

      You know, Noynoy’s five sentences came to me more of like this. Suppose Noynoy Aquino just crossed the street. Then he says to the press:

      “You know, this is a street, it’s so wide, so I have to push on my two feet just to cross. It’s an effort, but It would be a shame to my parents who taught me how to walk.”

      Parang ang hirap-hirap tumawid no? Ang laking bagay na tumawid siya?

      He makes a too big thing out of something so simple and trivial. That’s what we can expect in the coming months.

  14. oceanofred says:

    Does that mean if Gloria is younger than him, he’ll not give the proper courtesy? My goodness, where are his manners? It’s basic etiquette to be courteous to a higher-up regardless of his/her age. Parang tulog ata siya palagi kapag may klase sa Ateneo ha. Tsk tsk. I’m also very appaled on how he answered the Japanese reporter’s request. Like hello, would you expect Japanese to understand Filipino answers? If he gives that same answer to a Japanese politician, may God not save him for all the criticisms that will be thrown at him. Respect is a very, very big issue among Japanese and everyone expects to follow the honorific rules. Heck, Japanese even have rules on where they should seat inside a cab if they are together with their co-workers.

  15. t0da says:

    In summary, Noynoy's game plan for the next 100 days (or more, depends on how much the public will still think he's 'cute' and can do them no wrong):

    1.) Make a list of what needs to be done
    2.) Continue to blame soon-to-be ex-president GMA
    3.) Remind everyone of his parents (Kris can help do this too)

    IN CASE OF EMERGENCY: Use more yellow ribbons.
     
    The Aquino presidency in 100 days.

  16. Rennan says:

    So its getting likely that we may have a Binay presidency?

  17. NFA rice says:

    Is it just me? Everytime I see Aquino in the news, his mouth is always open, the lips strangely parted and he looks as if drooling. Not the kind of leader I want to represent the Filipino people. He doesn't even speak well and I have difficulty understanding what he says. But let's see if he can control his mouth and improve his speech. The presidency is an on-the-job training for him after all.
    He comments on the person of Gloria being a woman and older. Smacks of condescension and tactlessness.

    On a more serious note, why is 2 + 2 = 5 in fantasyland?

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  19. GabbyD says:

    "I note how the recipient described the rationale of the nature of such a response as being in deference to the memory of his parents."
     
    what are you against? the response itself? or the fact that the rationale involves his parents?
     
    if its the latter, what is wrong about admitting he shares  his parent's values? what is the character flaw here?

  20. mel says:

    @Gabby D.
    Both.
    Remember, it was a courtesy call from an outgoing to an incoming President.
    Kung hindi dahil sa mga magulang niya, hindi niya kinausap si PGMA? Napilitan siyang kausapin si PGMA gaya ng pagtakbo niya sa pagiging Presidente dahil sa magulang niya?  
    Worst, he called it "giving courtesies", then commented with those words after the call.
    Come on, GabbyD, try to think and answer your own question.      


  21. ChinoF says:

    In addition, GabbyD, he's saying that everything he does is because of his parents… which shows that he has no will of his own. His receiving GMA's call is courtesy, he is expected to do that, it is not a special achievement, it is not something you need to know from your parents when you are 50 years old and the president of a country. And for those anti-Glorianists, he's not even bowing down to "evil" GMA. In fact, Noynoy is making too much of a fuss out of it. Read my comment about crossing the street above.

  22. sarcasmgasm says:

    hmmm… ADD anyone?

  23. HalleluyahHymen says:

    @ChinoF
    This is exactly my point few comments up…. only GabbyD will miss the context 
    Context : the surroundings, circumstances, environment, background or settings which determine, specify, or clarify the meaning of an event

    In what context did your attack on him happen? – We had a pretty tense relationship at the time, and when he insulted me I snapped.

    Noynoy is like Smeagol/Gollum… always on first person I ME MINE and the third person with a MY at the beginning of the noun.
    Look at following Abnoyisms matrix

    Abnoyism Matrix

    On Taxes

    No new taxes if elected – Noynoy

    On Luisita Issue
    HACIENDA LUISITA DISTRIBUTED IN 5 YEARS – NOYNOY

    On Oath Taking

    Noynoy prefers to take oath before barangay chairman

    On Smoking
    Noynoy won't quit smoking

    On Giving Courtesies
    Aquino receives congrats call from Arroyo, feels ‘awkward’

     

  24. Aegis-Judex says:

    OK, that pic was unnerving. How low can one get, using his mother who has gone to God and her chief intercessor as a background for his public display of idiocy?

  25. ChinoF says:

    On that pic in the background…
    "Banal na Aso!
    Santong Kabayo!
    Natatawa Ako!
    Hee hee hee hee!"

  26. GabbyD says:

    there is something amiss with the reply, so i'll collect everything here.
    1) about the parents
    mel and chino said:
    "Kung hindi dahil sa mga magulang niya, hindi niya kinausap si PGMA? Napilitan siyang kausapin si PGMA gaya ng pagtakbo niya sa pagiging Presidente dahil sa magulang niya?  "
     
    " he's saying that everything he does is because of his parents… which shows that he has no will of his own"
     
    that is a very weird way of thinking about the situation. the man listened to what his parents believed, and decided to believe in it too. 
    this is how we usually work, as human being right? Ex: if u said: "i read book X, and it said A, B, C and i believe in A,B,C", thats totally fine, right? as a shorthand, u'd reply to a questions about your beliefs by merely referring to book X. 
     
    people do that all the time. hallelueah (for example) can site sociologist X, bong can cite economist Y, and its NOT evidence that they dont think. 
     
    perhaps the issue is this: you agree with the principles the Aquino parents believe in. if thats true, then we can talk about that. but if  you say that we stop thinking coz we are influenced by people or books, then thats weird. 
     
    2) about the other things he said. 
    "I have to give her the courtesies. She’s the current President. She’s older than me. She’s a woman."
    his argument is that: IF she's the above three things, THEN give her courtesies. NOTE: the opposite is NOT true– the lack of the above 3 doesnt mean she doesnt no courtesy!
    why? simply because there are many, many reasons to give courtesy, the three reasons being only 3 of them. logic 101.
    so, we all agree that we should have reasons to give her courtesy. that is NOT the issue. the issue is simply, you dont agree with his reasons.
     
    that is: if you got a call from your political opponent, and she is older, then you (chino, et al) will NOT give them courtesies. 
    this is the implication of your arguments. is this what u REALLY want to say?

  27. ChinoF says:

    GabbyD,
    On the first one, the point is, Aquino doesn't need to say that his parents told him to do that. He should receive GMA's call, that is the right thing to do. He would be an asshole if he snubs GMA. He would show that he is more arrogant than GMA. It's a courtesy call, right? So if he snubs the call, he is discourteous… which is unbecoming of a president. He should receive the call whether his parents teach it to him or not. He's just implying that it's so difficult to do… or that it is like "giving in to the enemy," which it is not.
    On the second one, yep, that's what we think Aquino is saying. GMA is his political opponent, so his receiving GMA's call is for him he would rather not do. That he is doing it, he claims is GMRC taught by his parents. So if his parents didn't teach him that, he would not receive the call? And in the five sentences quoted, he is broadcasting speaking to GMA is a special achievement. But it is not. He's also implying that GMA is so evil that he should not accept his call, but he had to do it despite being a difficult thing to do. Parang, he cannot stomach that he spoke to GMA. And that, my friend, is stupid, selfish and arrogant.
    Noynoy's quotes about betray his being unfit for the role of president, and how he is riding on a wave of hatred.

  28. Tekkie says:

    The point of this article is, why do you have to tell that?
    Isn't it obvious? Why the need to explain that you have to be courteous?
    Why, why, why Mr. Gabbyd?

  29. bp says:

    gabbyd,
    i think what is being pointed out here is:
    a: that noynoy is making a big deal out of pgma's call as evidenced by his "effort" to present some kind of justification for why he took the call
    hindi pa pwedeng simple lang na tumawag si pgma so kinausap niya?
    b: that noynoy continues to use his parents as some kind of propaganda tool in most of his statements
    can't he just say things as simply as possible without mentioning his parents?
    c: that everything that comes out of noynoy's mouth is "showbiz" meant to perpetuate the "i am the son of cory and noynoy therefore i am the chosen one" drama.
    it's likely you'll still find holes in what i just wrote but please don't pretend you're not seeing the b_llsh_t in noynoy's words. he's sounding more and more like a "showbiz" personality than a public official.
     
     

  30. ChinoF says:

    Oh yeah, on the second question again, GMA's age doesn't matter. She's the outgoing president, that's just it. It's courtesy to receive the call. Tekkie's right… why did Aquino have to say those things above?

  31. GabbyD says:

    we are arguing around each other chino.
     
    sabi mo: " That he is doing it, he claims is GMRC taught by his parents."
     
    yes. agree. you also believe this, as u said: "the point is, Aquino doesn't need to say that his parents told him to do that. He should receive GMA's call, that is the right thing to do"
     
    so you and aquino BOTH believe its the right thing to do. aquino further informs us that he KNOWs its the right thing to do BECAUSE of his parents' example, and the agrees with his parents' philosophy.
     
    ikaw, how do YOU learn its the right thing to do? i'm sure u have a reason. you probably, read about it somewhere, someone told you, etc. everyone LEARNS stuff thru life, diba? i learned how to be share from my sister, for example. i agreed with my sisters philosophy. you might say she influenced me.
     
    point is, you didnt wake up one morning and know EVERYTHING there is to know about life. you had to learn it. SO DID NOYNOY!
     
    @tekkie
    he is sharing with us his thought process. as i said, its possible to arrive at the conclusion of "be courteous to your enemies" thru many, many ways. 
     
    each way is different, and is instructive for us, coz it tells us how he would behave in other contexts.
     
    Ex: if he had said: "i gave her courtesies, coz my experience as a kanto boy is that if you are nice to people, they will give me more money"
     
    that experience ALSO told him to be courteous, but for ANOTHER reason, and that reason is very informative!

  32. GabbyD says:

    @ChinoF

    June 12, 2010 • 2:53 am

    its OK not to agree with his reasons. but to criticize him for having reasons? thats weird. 

    also, these reasons dont need to be all true to be given courtesies. i.e. if the president had been a man, it would still be good to recieve the call.. etc…

    the key idea here is the notion in logic of "sufficiency". those 3 reasons are individually sufficient, but not necessary to be give courtesy.

    @bp
    1) it IS  a big deal. noynoy has, as part of his platform, promised to go after GMA. so it IS a big deal. its like you filed a case against mr. X, and X called you. generally, you wont have conversations with X

    2) "b: that noynoy continues to use his parents as some kind of propaganda tool in most of his statements
    can't he just say things as simply as possible without mentioning his parents?
    c: that everything that comes out of noynoy's mouth is "showbiz" meant to perpetuate the "i am the son of cory and noynoy therefore i am the chosen one" drama."

     
    i think thats fair as a personal opinion of noynoy. i cant tell you what NOT to like. 
     
    but my point is simple: its OK to be influenced by one's parents. its OK to be inspired by them, its OK to tell people about it… there is nothing wrong with this per se.
     
    in the same way that you (bp) have ur own beliefs. 
     
    problem is, B0, chino, hallelu, etc.. is saying that being influence by someone makes you braindead. 
    logically, thats just wrong. if they are right, we are all braindead.
     

  33. ChinoF says:

    Nope, we're not saying that influence by someone makes someone braindead. We're just saying that the guy may already be braindead… and is making petty excuses that reveal it. 😉

  34. barbara says:

    nung mapanood ko sa tv patrol (no choice tfc lang meron sa bahay) yung sinabi na yan ni noynoy abt sa pag bati sa kanya ni pgma, akala ko ako lang nakapansin ng mejo kakaiba nyang sagot at rason. gulat ako meron na dito sa antipinoy.com… hindi lang pala ako ang nakapansin.. ang weird talaga eh alanganin lagi sagot nya kadalasan pa ang layo ng sagot nya sa mga tanong.

  35. fullofhatred says:

     
     

  36. Tekkie says:

    @GabbyD
    We are not at war. There are no enemies here. Its just a simple call congratulating the new president. Just a way of showing respect to the new president. Of course if you really are courteous, answering the call is the right thing to do as ChinoF said. There's no need to explain to the whole nation why you have to do that.

  37. mel says:

    @GabbyD:
    It was a call from a public office to a public office.
    It was not a personal call.
    As a leader of a nation, every word you utter in public must show your wisdom and tactfulness – that is defined as showing concern about upsetting or offending people.
    Noynoy Aquino's comments showed his lack of professionalism.
    Take the example of the Bundespresident of Germany Koehler, who has just recently stepped down from his office because of his public comments on the country's foreign military enactment, which were misinterpreted by many and brought criticisms to his office. 
    As a person, Noynoy Aquino has the rights to speak and think that way BUT he is now a public figure. He ALONE is responsible for his words and actions.

  38. Jett Rink says:

    compare that to george w.bush calling barack obama in nov.2008 and congratulating him on his victory. obama just said thank you and i appreciate it. no drama, no innuendos, no side-comments. and that is after hammering and pummeling W as the main campaign issue that year.
    just a lack of graciousness from this guy.

    • Miriam Quiamco says:

      The difference is that the current president’s victory was based on drama and nothing else!!! He has to keep the people who voted for him interested for if the soap opera ends, they may commit mass suicides for lack of real substance in their lives. PDI and the other equally loathsome media outfit the ABS whatever are his mouthpieces.

      Take for example PDI’s piece on the celebration of independence day, what a thoroughly biased piece against Arroyo and unabashedly for Aquino. The reporter purportedly interviewed families who attended the celebration, and predictably, the families went there to see Aquino even though it was already all over the papers and TV/radio that the childish Aquino was going to boycott the celebration. The whole family went to see Aquino, wow, the family could have just said the truth, that they went to the celebration because it was a chance to have fun, joining some groupie thing, and not to see the chosen one.

      So what if PGMA publicizes her accomplishments to the nation, all administrations do that everywhere, it is one way of bringing the country together, of making them proud of the country’s accomplishments despite the problems, it is necessary for the country to keep their sights on national goals, and what the country so far has accomplished, well , it so happened all the improvements happened under PGMA. This paper is useless in education the people, it is one mouthpiece of hatred and divisiveness, a paper that is good at brainwashing the public of the Aquino mythology, sad, sad, sad. . .

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      Point hammered in!!! @ Jett Rink

      @ Miriam

      For the last two or three weeks the inquirer’s headlines are captioned with “X HAILS Noynoy”… it’s as if Noynoy has won the lottery. The “hail” word affects those yellow zombies subliminally… a psychological enhancing mechanism. The general program of government and the economic policies should have been the priority of the articles… but can’t read anything that is related to it.

  39. GabbyD says:

    @Jett R.

    there is a difference. the democratic party NEVER suggested that they would pursue corruption raps against W Bush.

    only the far (further) left wanted that.

    it was clear to everyone them that, while bush’s actions were wrong, they were never illegal.

    see john woo on the expansive powers of the US president during wartime.

    • Miriam Quiamco says:

      Presidential actions can either be viewed illegal or legal depending on which legal expert is looking at it. Are you suggesting the PGMA has committed illegal acts and that is why Aquino should go after her? Balloney, George Bush clearly broke the law on many counts re: weapons of mass deception, the lies his administration used to justify his warmongering ways, billions of dollars worth of contracts awarded to Cheney’s security company. . . The Bush administration is far worse than Gloria’s but it is simply not the political culture of the U.S. to waste the resources of the presidency for litigation. It is hard enough to get laws passed to solve pressing countries of the country without vindictiveness as the heart of the president’s agenda, why take more burden than what is necessary. Let us see if this weakling of a president in our medieval country will be able to build a prima facie case against Gloria to satisfy the Catholics’ clamor for blood!!!

      • GabbyD says:

        ” Balloney, George Bush clearly broke the law on many counts re: weapons of mass deception, the lies his administration used to justify his warmongering ways, billions of dollars worth of contracts awarded to Cheney’s security company. . . The Bush administration is far worse than Gloria’s but it is simply not the political culture of the U.S. to waste the resources of the presidency for litigation”

        nope. there is NO case. there is not witness. no evidence. nothing. thats why no one is filing a case.

        ” but it is simply not the political culture of the U.S. to waste the resources of the presidency for litigation””

        two words — white water… ken star prosecuted that.

        in this case, may “case” (no matter how flimsy it was)…

      • Miriam Quiamco says:

        That was an impeachment case against an incumbent, the presidency did not initiate a case against Clinton, and the majority in the democratic senate and congress during the Bush incumbency decided against impeachment because of the long list of problems facing the country. Clinton’s presidency was lucky enough to have benefited from dot.com booming economy and no major wars demanding 100% attention of the government.

        Just what exactly is your argument? The political culture in the U.S. is more reasonable than the vengeful Catholic political culture in our country. The Americans know when to move on to face pressing problems of governance. Is this why you were supporting the most incompetent candidate? You wanted Gloria to be prosecuted, well let’s see if Aquino could do it, his mother could not even get the murderers of his dad even with revolutionary powers, Aquino will get Gloria? Balloney, no evidence, no case, period.

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      Damn!!! GabbyD… still working on a “missed context”?!!!?!!

      Jett Rink wrote:
      “compare that to george w.bush calling barack obama in nov.2008 and congratulating him on his victory. obama just said thank you and i appreciate it. no drama, no innuendos, no side-comments. and that is after hammering and pummeling W as the main campaign issue that year.
      just a lack of graciousness from this guy”

      You wrote:
      “there is a difference. the democratic party NEVER suggested that they would pursue corruption raps against W Bush.

      only the far (further) left wanted that.

      it was clear to everyone them that, while bush’s actions were wrong, they were never illegal.

      see john woo on the expansive powers of the US president during wartime.”

      where in the hell are you threading from??? there’s not even an itsy bitsy teeny weeny polka dot of notion that Jett Rink is commenting on the context of HOW NOYNOY WILL IMPLEMENT THINGS!!! the article and the comments are talking about the ACT… THE ACT… THE ACT OF EXTENDING THE RIGHT DECORUM, PROTOCOL, COURTESY, ETHICAL COUNDUCT… ETC…. of taking a call from an outgoing officer. Whether GMA is as corrupt as Marcos or as dumb as Erap it doesn’t matter. He has to ACT LIKE A GENTLEMAN!!! Giving side comments like that is DUMB, STUPID AND ARROGANT. So Gabby D… WHAT THE F-U-C-K IS YOUR THESIS!!!!!

      • GabbyD says:

        there is a difference between the obama-bush example, VS the aquino-arroyo example.

        the difference is very important and makes the comparison void…

        i’m dumb stupid and arrogant? really? ME? i’m not the one who insists on mis-interpreting my thread with jett rink…whatevs…

      • ChinoF says:

        A difference, GabbyD? Oh yes, this is the difference… Obama was gracious to his outgoing. Our local example was not. This difference is important, and the comparison is not void. Otherwise they’re both the same situation – the incoming should be gracious to the outgoing, no matter who it is. You went off to trying Bush in court and all that… and it wasn’t part of the discussion.

        Hail GabbyD, expert detourer of the discussion. 😉

      • HalleluyahHymen says:

        Hahahaha…. seee…. the DUMB, STUPID and ARROGANT phrase… does not refer to you… but if you think you are… you are… let me reserve my thoughts on you if you are…

        My goodness GabbyD… Again… YOU MISSED THE CONTEXT!!!

      • GabbyD says:

        @chino

        it was part of the discussion. earlier, i said: “@bp
        1) it IS a big deal. noynoy has, as part of his platform, promised to go after GMA. so it IS a big deal. its like you filed a case against mr. X, and X called you. generally, you wont have conversations with X”

        that is the KEY difference between aquino-arroyo VS obama-bush.

        @halle
        “but if you think you are… you are… let me reserve my thoughts on you if you are…”

        did i say i thought that? nope.

      • ChinoF says:

        Oh… but don’t many people hate Bush at the same time many here hate GMA? It’s pointless anti-incumbentism.

        And don’t you just love that GabbyD? Anti-Glorianism? Is that why you love the incoming president so much? What a useless reason. Oh, there are more important promises to to watch for with our incoming president. For example, Kris promised she’ll leave the country if her brother wins… there, a broken promise. A foretaste of what’s to come. Sorry, that difference between the GMA-Aquino and Obama-Bush case is insubstantial.

      • HalleluyahHymen says:

        “i’m dumb stupid and arrogant? really? ME? ” – GabbyD

        “the DUMB, STUPID and ARROGANT phrase… does not refer to you… but if you think you are… you are… let me reserve my thoughts on you if you are… ” – MOI

        “did i say i thought that? nope.” – GabbyD

        Let’s just pray GabbyD

        God grant me the serenity
        to accept the things I cannot change;
        courage to change the things I can;
        and wisdom to know the difference.

        OH MY GOODNESS!!!! 😆 😆 😆

      • GabbyD says:

        @ chino

        so now u want to parse kris aquino’s promises? they are 2 separate people, u know. ang hirap naman nyan — kahit si kris, an talk show host, to hold her to what she said in the buzz? wow, thats ur standard eh?

        @ halle

        ekk! wrong again! your r misquoting me again… hehehe.. what, can’t make a decent hirit without mistating ur opponent’s words? di mo kaya?

        whatevs man. may god grant u serenity, and the ability to make a cogent argument 🙂 its ok, i’m sorry u cant make a straight argument. too bad — it wouldve been alot of fun discussing with you.

      • ChinoF says:

        Gabby,
        I mentioned Kris’ promises because Kris is most likely the one dictating Noy. Just think… would Noy on his own think of Boy Abunda for DOT Sec?
        But you’re right, they’re two different people. That’s why it’s funny that one person has to dictate the actions of the other.

        On his own promises, he promised to “clean up” corruption in the government. That’s “clean up” – 100% clean. So if 1/% of the government is still corrupt, will he resign? He also promised to give Hacienda Luisita to the farmers by 2014. So if it isn’t given by then, should we ask him to resign? Our new president made lots of tall promises. He’s really committing political suicide by making them. Such tall promises shows that he doesn’t think very well, and thus we won’t expect him to make them. That promise on imprisoning GMA… why GMA only? Why not everyone who’s corrupt? Is GMA the only one who’s corrupt? There you see a misdirected sense of purpose.

        Halle,

        Ganito nalang, quote mo si Sarah Ferguson:

        “Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
        the courage to change the things I can,
        and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill
        because they pissed me off!”

        Hehehe

      • HalleluyahHymen says:

        Anak ng PITONG KUBANG katangahan yan… AKO PA RAW ANG NAG MISQUOTE!!???? bwahahaha…

        READ AGAIN THE COMMENT OF JETT… Pagisipan mong mabuti!!! Tatanga tanga ka e…

  40. Miriam Quiamco says:

    See, you see that framed picture behind the childish, petulant and immature chosen one? It says it all about this country, no separation of church and state. The leaders pretend to be religious and ardent followers of the antiquated Catholic beliefs, equating even his mother with the Virgin Mary. Jesus, this is blasphemous, they should take it down and break it to pieces. If you are a true Christian, you would never be so presumptuous as to have the picture of Mary with a mother whose image has already been exploited politically and socially for all its worth.

    But the 15 million medieval-minded Filipinos are comfortable with this image, including the devoutly Catholic ones, more so, perhaps. I am a Catholic and a proud one at that, but I despise this way of practising Catholicism, it is backward, medieval and serves only the interests of the corrupt class of Filipinos. Down with the Aquino mythology, the Philippines doesn’t have to put up with this gutter-level leadership. Why are the respectable members of the press feeding off the abnormal actuations of the newly elected leader. What is it about this country that cannot transcend medieval christianity?

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      AMEN …. Halleluyah @ Miriam

    • ChinoF says:

      The song “Banal na Aso, Santong Kabayo” best describes that painting… a picture of religious hypocrisy.

      • HalleluyahHymen says:

        …natatawa ako hi hi hi hi @ ChinoF

        Walangya brod… yung suki mo na extinct na birdie ng Australia ang tyaga tyaga mong makipag-usap… bilib ako sa pagiging Kristyano mo… hehehehe…

        Cory – nagdadasal ng rosaryo habang yung mga kamag-anak nangungurakot on the sides… tsk tsk tsk tsk… Halleluyah!!! Heymen my dir braders en sisters… HEYMEN!!!!! – Brooder Mayk Belerdi

      • ChinoF says:

        Hehehe… napa-praktis pag-iisip ko eh. Para di ako ma-Alzheimer’s tulad ni… y’know. hehehe

      • ChinoF says:

        Onga pala, maraming ibang magbabasa nito… kaya mabuting gumawa ng mga argumentong ito para matuto sila, hehe.

    • famous wolf says:

      Why would people equate the Virgin Mary to an Aquino who has far often than not, showed that she tolerates the evil that spreads in this country? Such antiquated beliefs is blasphemy, I agree with Miriam, NEVER use Religion as a tool in government, it’s more destructive than using emo-politics.

    • TMM says:

      As I see it, countries where Catholicism rules like the Philippines, Mexico, and other South American catholic states…. countinue to grow backwards.

      Why?

  41. GabbyD says:

    where is B0? i’d love to hear his responses.

  42. NFA rice says:

    Let’s say Aquino is allowed to express his emotional reason to speak with Gloria Arroyo I have no problem with that. I hate Arroyo, but Arroyo is still president, and we must respect that Office for its own sake, the highest office in the land. From his inane comment, it seems that he only respects the Presidency because the person holding it is a woman and older than him. He doesn’t recognize what it means to be the leader of the Filipino people. He must learn to think twice before opening his mouth. Oh I forgot his mouth is always open. The point is that he could have just said “Look, I had to speak with her. Whatever she has done, she’s still our president after all.”

    • HalleluyahHymen says:

      Amen! @ NFA…

      That’s the point of the article…. that’s the point of the other commenters here… some DODO here seems to miss every point of the article and the comments….

  43. ChinoF says:

    There was another flipflop I recall from the only part of Aquino’s interview that I watched (it’s not verbatim):

    “We were not so affected by the (global financial) crisis because we were not part of the global economy. But in order to advance, we have to be a part of the global economy.”

    Huh? Did I get it right?

    He just contradicted himself there. Either that or he talks too fast for me to follow. 😛

    • famous wolf says:

      Why are we not part of the Global economy? We are there to compete and get investors interested in our products so that OUR ECONOMY could thrive, Noynoy REALLY IS LIKE A MIXTURE OF PALIN AND DUBYA. They like to contradict themselves and continuously shoot themselves in the foot.

  44. NFA rice says:

    to be fair to Aquino, he mentioned Mrs. Arroyo being the current president. He only needed other reasons to give courtesy 🙂

  45. NFA rice says:

    Although this person is qualified for the presidency under the Constitution he is clearly intellectually impaired to effectively discharge obligations. I am not saying he is crazy or retarded. I assume he has the intent to improve the political climate but performance is a different matter. He still has to show some maturity so that people can take him seriously. So far he has not shown any shred of evidence of that.

  46. TMM says:

    My dear countrymen,

    Whatever will happen to the Philippines under Noynoy’s presidency from now on…. WE DESERVE IT. Because we voted for an incompetent fool, we will reap the consequences of our actions.

    As for me, I’m out of here. I can’t even take the fact that Erap was number 2! Horror of horrors! Are we that stupid already? Have we not learned from the lessons history has supposedly shoved down our throats!?

    Oh, this is too much!

    • Jarvis says:

      “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” – Winston Churchill

  47. alab says:

    His patronizing comments to pgma clearly shows how juvenile this man is, does he have to make “pasikat” to his supporters and show them that he had no choice but speak to the president who the yellow mob branded as “evil incarnate”?

    Maybe he should thank her for using her tarnished image to his advantage and maybe villar too because if not for them mr. aquino won’t have a tagline in his campaigns.. and if he learned good values from his parents then maybe he should also learn the words, cordiality, graciousness and humility. And if he is the son of a Catholic-devout woman, raised to be morally upright then why doesn’t he stop his media-savvy friends from manipulating the symbols of Christianity, using it as subliminal propaganda..

    Has he forgetten that as president, the Filipino people will be expecting results from him, they will be looking foward how their lives will improve not a media darling? someone who can stand by his own decisions not a puppet dictated upon by the likes of peping of the coquangco clan and her bratty and narcissistic sister, Kris.

    If at the start. he is showing how unstatesmanlike he is then what can we expect from his presidency? A lot of tactless, insensitive and unthought -of remarks probably, a very long teleserye with bad actors and equally bad scripts..

  48. YAPPY says:

    when someone congratulates you, it’s but normal to reply ” thank you”

    no big deal about that… but P-Noy( ughhhhhh) makes it so much of a big deal to be able to say thank you…

  49. Jarvis says:

    People, please understand Mr. Aquino’s circumstances:

    (1) He smokes and smoking kills brain cells.
    (2) He is a bachelor so he may act like a drunk college fratboy at times (no offense to bachelors, legitimate fraternities, college students, and “alcohol enthusiasts”).
    (3) He has a bullet lodged in his neck and it may be affecting his brain.
    (4) His momma recently passed away so he may be emotional at times.
    (5) He holds a sole Bachelor’s degree in Economics taking no steps to further his knowledge and skills in the science and art of running a government though academic education.
    (6) He really wasn’t interested in being the president at first. People just pressured him to run.
    (7) He obviously appreciates the value of Philippine show-business and friends from the media.
    (8) He’s a dumb f*** who posses neither competence nor the appearance of competence.

    So let’s cut him some slack. Hopefully under his administration, we’ll have just one coup d’etat, a couple of economic crises, and a kilometer’s worth of Supreme Court decisions overturning executive acts for gross abuse of discretion, lack of jurisdiction, and violations of legal and constitutional provisions. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

    I’m sorry but poking fun at Noynoy is just so much fun – even better than the Erap jokes.

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